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How do you go before the PVP? -Posted: December 19, 2007
Hello people,

wanted to know how it goes in PVP combat with your opponent and how you attacked there.

Since I am a dagger rogue, I have several options:

First Stealth -> Cheap Shot (+2 combo points and 4 seconds stun) -> A Sinister Strike (+1 combo point) -> Kidney Shot with 3 combo points (4 seconds stun) ... Now the enemy should be down to about 50% . After that, I always try as much as it is in the 4 seconds to hit it and then just something to bekommmen ENERGIIE for a solar plexus. So it's pretty easy to keep an opponent quite a long time unable to act suns.

Unfortunately, this method lacks some of the damage. So my 2nd:

Second Stealth -> ambush (+1-2 combo points) -> Aperture (energy recharge in 2 seconds, but not quite stand there remain loose, because most of them come out once again ^ ^) before end -> FinstererStoß (+1 combo point) -> Kidney Shot (if you are lucky, then you just before the harvest levels have 4 combo points - stunning 5 seconds)

In the 2nd method makes it more dmg than the first, but the possibilities that all goes wrong are very high ...

The whole are my personal experiences. Of course, ds is very full spec and weapon dependent.

But perhaps knows who else shares a few combos, and they with me!

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Hi Diask,

So I do not now for what you want to know exactly now, so if Arena, duel or BG. For BG is a well assassinate skillung very well because you do not have many CDs.

Your question is how to do more damage if I understand correctly you there.
I would recommend you to skillen 3/33/25. This, in my opinion the best spec for PvP (much better than with daggers). Why?

- Reduces cooldown of Evasion and Sprint by 1.5 minutes
- Improved Sprint chance to remove, ie 100% bewegungseinschrenkende effects
- 50% more offhand damage
- Improved enters the target for 2 seconds to silence
- Klingenwirben (20% faster attacks for 15 seconds)
- Sinister Strike, Gouge, and treacherous blade has a 10% chance the enemy for 8 sec Daze (good for Mage, Hunter, Warlock)
- 10% chance of stunning effects, fear and resist
- Adrenaline Rush (The most critical talent)
- 75% chance 3 combo points with Sinister Strike and 2 add to choking
- Ghostly shock (very important against Warrior / Hunter / Paladin / amplifier Shami), as you sec for 7% get 15% more evasive
- 5 sec cooldown of Stealth
- Reduces cooldown of blinds and disappearance at 1.5 minutes
- Serrated Blade (very good)
- Hemorrhage (Very good attack)
- Preparation (away all your CDs)
- Choking and Fieser trick 20 energy points less cost, also you do 20% more damage against targets below 35% health
- Critical hits cause 5% more damage and you have to stun a 6% chance per weapon, the target for 3 sec.
- Sap and covers energy costs by 50%, also reduces the range is increased by 5 meters


As a weapon you should have 2 Mace.
At the beginning of the fight against all the class you use, except Frostmages, cheap shot.
This is then followed by hemorrhage and Adrenaline Rush, Sinister Strike one and a Kidney Shot.
Now he's stunned again for another 4-5 seconds.
Now replace blades and vortex immediately and after that Sinister Strike hemorrhage. Ghostly Strike and Evasion every time you do not get stunned.
The opponent should already be quite low. Aperture you can now use (Cloak of Shadows when dots on you), wait 4-5 seconds until you can make yourself invisible again (or just use disappear) and then starts all over again. Sprint, you can even before the first "re-render invisible" because you use anyway after the 2nd trick Nasty preparation used.


So the spec was my Rogue on 2100er rating in the arena and otherwise I was actually just about everything Defeat (Warriors are not a problem), except for Frostmages you can pitch have ^ ^


Hope this helped you

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Schurkenskillung -Posted: December 19, 2007
Hi So I once tried to embellish the talent tree .... Result looked like this:
Meuchelbaum:
3 Eviscerate

Combat tree:
Solarplexu 3, 2 Sinister Strike, 5 defense
5 Precision -> 5 ambidexterity
2 stamina sprinting 2
Blade Flurry, 2 Blade Twisting, 1 Aggression, Adrenaline Rush 1, 2 nerves of steel

Deception tree:
5 Opportunity, 2 Dirty Tricks, 5 camouflage, 1 Ghostly Strike;
3 Improved Ambush, 2 volatility, 3 serrated blade -> Hemorrhage;
1 and 2 vulgarities preparation
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Corrected me know if what should be wrong somewhere
would also like to test with my rogue .... that is, well, that I can again> bye daggers of mine. '
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I am for example. degree geskillt on Assassination ... Although n bissl mühseelig skin but also quite pure: 41/0/20 ... Just start with nasty trick, then mutilate, ... if 5 pt kidney cut on it are then cold-bloodedness, mutilate, eviscerate again 5pkt then you may need to use fade and disappear .... I often machs after feeling ^ ^
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Meuchelbaum:
Eviscerate 3 or 3 malice

Combat tree:
Solarplexu 3, 2 Sinister Strike;
1 Improved Slice and Dice, 5 precision -> 5 ambidexterity
2 stamina, 2 sprints, 2 Improved Kick
5 Mace Specialization, Blade Flurry, 1 Blade Twisting, 1 Aggression, Adrenaline Rush 1, 2 nerves of steel

Deception tree:
5 masters of deception, two lazy tricks, 5 camouflage, 1 Ghostly Strike, 3 Initiative;
Volatility 2, 3 serrated blade -> Hemorrhage;
1 and 2 vulgarities preparation


So I did it.
Is just only for pistons and piston but with skill skin is all gone ^ ^
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juhu -Posted: December 19, 2007
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Originally posted by Suffer Post show
Combat tree:
... -> 5 Mace Specialization, Blade Flurry, 1 Blade Twisting, 1 Aggression, Adrenaline Rush 1, 2 nerves of steel

Deception tree:
5 masters of deception, two lazy tricks, 5 camouflage, 1 Ghostly Strike, 3 Initiative;
Volatility 2, 3 serrated blade -> Hemorrhage;
1 and 2 vulgarities preparation


So I did it.
Is just only for pistons and piston but with skill skin is all gone ^ ^
ie daggers were also sometimes look better if the skillung is (what I think ^ ^ because I have probs with warries etc and ghostly shock etc brings it to the classes) I again connecting to the skill and that then PISTONS * g *
but is tested only
THX for the skillung
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mal ne to ask your opinion what would suffer @ ne super skillung for NEN arena mage ....
So the really bad skin skillung purely O_o I've got the two gladi a reactor, and the going up like little red scooter s ....
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I will try at times suffer from skillung dagger Rogue as I have no warrior against cance times now I try with mace 35000ehre Müster have enough for the two kolbe the reward you get for pvp sometimes look but sounds very good to suffer again Yankee
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mal ne to ask your opinion what would suffer @ ne super skillung for NEN arena mage ....
So the really bad skin skillung purely O_o I've got the two gladi a reactor, and the going up like little red scooter s ....
A great arena spec for a Mage in my opinion, even the only sensible 17/0/44. Although a Arcane Frost (Ice Block So, instant lightning and frost or ice lances 3.5k Arcane fire with instant pyro) recommended quite well, only in NER evaluation of 1900 + on any case.

Oh, and to spec .. Yes that is really good = clean) fun with NEM also Hammerschmied 1h piston irgentwas me 340 dmg max and if the procs lived there about 2 beats per second by hand with the main out when you have activated all
But not to recommend for arena too much since there is not always procs.


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When I was still a villain. (Sold one day before full s3 with s2) I've always done it. Btw: was mutilate geskillt

Stealth -> Cheap Shot -> if he had poison on it, no Theef -> Mutilate -> Kidney Shot -> Mutilate and then they were always down otherwise normal
Gouge -> full energy -> Mutilate 5-evi -> Blind -> wait until I was out of the Combat -> Stealth and then the front of spielchen

Mages when I garote or made out of the ambush because porten always
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Thank you people for your secret tips ^ ^
So if you're pretty good about it, it's actually possible someone stunned the entire fight either, or with something else to keep still.

Since I have to geskillt Riposte, I can use it too often. Because then I disarm a target for 3 seconds and if there is an off warrior before de is already some very important (to Deff warriors that happens naturally quite often).

In principle, it can be about daggers or sword fight very much
Many say the sword do more damage, which is also eingentlich. But I'm going with daggers waaaay better alone because of the crits! So with full S1 set and would like to PVP daggers and socketed so come well I to 30% and that's a lot!

Currently I am on the sword, but because I simply lack the ambush, which I loosely on Critte 2k ... but not always, but often ^ ^

Although I would come with both PVP swords with a Sinister Strike to about 1k, but then in turn the solar plexus comes with Backstab ^ ^ (Crittet at me with 1.5k) ...

So really it's just a game and Ansihcts thing. I think that you with daggers in PVE PVP ind ... but can be better off arguing about it!
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So I kritte with about 2.4k gut and blood fall over 1k. For PVP arena is especially daggers wirklcih NOT SUITABLE. You will not get down healshami with 459 Resilience as a dagger Rogue. Bekommste not easy. Work alone against NEN healshami ok could but it's also someone else in this arena. In BG daggers and rocks all the kind of PVE is not bad either. But take no daggers in the arena, it brings nothing. Also not true warriors against NEN thick. And skillen Riposte does not work. So I would better distribute the points.

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